Psychotic Parrot

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  Are You Surprised That You Ever Believed "In The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  knowing what you know now, are you embarrassed that you ever believed in the jehovah's witness religion?.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  Sometimes, even though i no longer believe any of it, i still feel the fear of the big A appear in the back of my mind (mainly when my family are going on about it). It's really quite frightening how some of these things stay with you even after you've put it all behind you :(
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  Watchtower defense of NGO status in the UN

  by Psychotic Parrot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

  this may have been dealt with before.

  on this site the jw's defend their ngo status in the 1990's.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  "Oh wait, they are the wild beast of Revelation 17. I am sure that they would totally make this up to make JW's look bad, right? Right?"

  Believe it or not, my dad DID actually say that the UN would make it up just to make the Watchtower look bad, and that they hate the Watchtower & are there mainly to take them down.

  Sometimes i really do question his sanity :(
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  Watchtower defense of NGO status in the UN

  by Psychotic Parrot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

  this may have been dealt with before.

  on this site the jw's defend their ngo status in the 1990's.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  So it's definately true that the WTBTS has never denied actually being an NGO? I need to confirm this as my dad is adament that they have denied it, & this denial is good enough for him! Which i find completely stupid :(
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  Are You Surprised That You Ever Believed "In The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  knowing what you know now, are you embarrassed that you ever believed in the jehovah's witness religion?.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  I was born in, & i just went along with it for the first few years of my life, i always believed it but never had any real passion for it, never wanted to be 'strong' in the truth but always felt guilty (scared i might be killed at the big A) because i wasn't. And i always hated the idea that our future salvation & eternal life in paradise would be at the expense of billions of lives, that part NEVER sat well with me. I always had doubts about the whole thing but never let those doubts play on my mind too much & just took the advice that eventually all would be revealed.

  Then when i was about 16 i really started to think carefully about things, i began studying with an elder (congregation service overseer). I believe that this elder was secretly having doubts at the time (mainly about the credibility of the WTBTS) & many of those doubts were inadvertantly (or possibly intentionally) transmitted to me.

  When i was 18 i finally decided that i just didn't believe it anymore, i still believed in God but not the WTBTS or their version of events, & i didn't think much of other Christian ideas either. I became an unbaptised publisher in January 2006 (mainly with a view to getting baptised later in the year so that i could eventually get married to some young virginal sister and have sex without feeling guilty about it LOL), but then i quickly decided that the best way was out. I stopped going out in the ministry in February 2006, last memorial that spring, last DC that June, last meeting that August, stopped reading their literature around that time too, then finally ended my study with the service overseer in March 2007, intended to go to the memorial that spring but decided not to at the last minute.

  Since then i've become an atheist & have learnt a lot about evolution, abiogenesis theories & astrophysics. Suffice to say, i now consider it ridiculous that i ever believed any of it & my only excuse is that i was just a kid, now i'm 21 years old & am old enough to know better.

  It just confuses me that my dad, born and raised an atheist, started studying at 18 & came into the truth fully (was baptised) at the age of 20 or 21, then marrying my mum (who was a born in) at 23. I know that i personally would NEVER come in as an adult, so i find it strange that my dad did, as he has an inquiring mind like i do. Although when he came in (mid-1970's) there wasn't the internet at that time, and he never really had much exposure to the 1975 fiasco as he wasn't baptised until 1976 or 1977.

  Thankfully i was never baptised, so i'm not disfellowshipped & am therefore not a family outcast, but there is an eternal elephant in the room & it does cause some trouble at times :(
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  Watchtower defense of NGO status in the UN

  by Psychotic Parrot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

  this may have been dealt with before.

  on this site the jw's defend their ngo status in the 1990's.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  So why did they become an NGO? Do we know the real reason yet?
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  Watchtower defense of NGO status in the UN

  by Psychotic Parrot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

  this may have been dealt with before.

  on this site the jw's defend their ngo status in the 1990's.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  The trouble is my father, he seems to think that the Watchtower were justified in what they did and convincing him otherwise is like trying to repoduce with a cabbage. He takes the Watchtower's word for it on everything and in this case seems to think that the watchtower denied ever being an NGO at all, but instead were using the UN library for years already (true) only to stop using it (false) when it became necessary to become an NGO to keep using the library (never happened). The thing is, the Watchtower never even made such a claim, rather than denying being an NGO they attempted to justify the fact that they became one (with lies). When i asked him to find the Watchtower article that made this claim (that they were never an NGO) he simply brushed me aside.

  I actually feel shame for being related to him :(
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  Watchtower defense of NGO status in the UN

  by Psychotic Parrot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

  this may have been dealt with before.

  on this site the jw's defend their ngo status in the 1990's.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/

  This may have been dealt with before. On this site the JW's defend their NGO status in the 1990's. It smells of cover up but i wouldn't mind seeing someone go through it and point out the pros and cons in their arguments as i'm having trouble knowing what to believe and what not to right now.

  Thanks.
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  So let me get this straight

  by TheICE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a web site called jehovah-witness.net where x-jw's and jw's who pretend to be jw's come to chat about how bad jehovah witnesses are and how they brain washed them etc, would it not be more productive to move on and forget than to let something most of you obviously hate take so much of your time and effort.. for some being a jw is about not being part of the world, what other religion is there that is as moral as a jw.

  i am d'fed but i belive that jw's are the true religion.

  sure some of them can be self righteous pricks but there imperfect just like anyone else,we all need to focus on us and not worry about what there doing because we can't change them.. .

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  Psychotic Parrot

  "Your basically telling them there whole life is worthless and there just going to die."

  jehovahs witnesses go around knocking on people's doors saying exactly the same thing.
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  Name Some Weird/Strange JW Beliefs

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anything come to mind?.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  They believe that those who leave 'the truth' do so because they cannot adhere to God's standards.

  It makes my f***ing blood curl when rubbadubs come out with that s**t. "You just don't want to be accountable!"

  Er... no, actually i just want the real truth, not 'the truth' with a tm sign tagged onto it. Dubs need to start analysing what they believe to see why people leave, not demonize them for not being able to follow their pointless rules or keep up with the endless BORING meetings, ministry & other such bullshite.

  I think we should all start being really nice to the dubs, cause let's face it, they hate that! It's the combined persecution (they just LOVE to be persecuted, the sadists) that binds them together & reinforces their bogus faith. If we start being nice as pie to them then maybe they'll start to question things & wonder why they're not being treated with contempt like Jesus the watchtower said they will.
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  What is the most damning scripture in the Bible?

  by viva in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for many years, i had serious issues with alot of scriptures.

  the creation account, the flood, jonah in the whale, etc.

  scriptures that are scientifically falsifiable.

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  Psychotic Parrot

  These three when read together are pretty good :)

  1 John 4:8 - "God is love."
  1 Corinthians 13:4 - "Love is not jealous."
  Exodus 34:14 - "God, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."